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scangauge II in latinamerican Tucson

#1 Postby jmayora » Wed May 26, 2010 4:52 pm

Hi,

I recently bougth a ScanGauge II and connected it to the port near the hood release. The unit is displaying "connecting" forever.

Does anyone from Latin America use the scangauge II in their Tucson without problem?

I wonder if our Tucson's have the OBD II installed or does it have a Hyundai propietary system

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Re: scangauge II in latinamerican Tucson

#2 Postby flyfisherdon » Wed May 26, 2010 6:36 pm

Try it inside, just beneath the dashboard, around the middle.
If still a problem, Try a call into the factory or an email.
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#3 Postby tysinbad » Thu May 27, 2010 4:09 am

I doubt very much if you have a different system in your vehicle. I am sure it would be OBD II.
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Re: scangauge II in latinamerican Tucson

#4 Postby jmayora » Thu May 27, 2010 7:11 am

This morning I was driving from home to work with the Scangauge connected to the car. The scangauge was displaying "connecting...". I only drove about 300 mts when I felt the car was not shifting gears. I have an automatic transmission Tucson. Then I have to stop, turn the engine off, disconnect the scangauge and start the engine again. After that everything is working normal.

I think perhaps the cable is not the correct one.

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Re: scangauge II in latinamerican Tucson

#5 Postby flyfisherdon » Thu May 27, 2010 10:17 am

I had a problem that was caused by the cable, so definitely contact Scan Guage for the solution.
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#6 Postby tysinbad » Thu May 27, 2010 10:15 pm

I just checked my scangauge, after pressing MORE, MORE (on the bottom right) then select MODE (top left), I got KWPF as the protocol the scangauge and car are communicating on.

You can also force the scangauge to use any of the protocols. What do others say?

I suspect that Jmayora, yours says nothing as it hasn't made contact with the ECU. Could be a cable problem.
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Re: scangauge II in latinamerican Tucson

#7 Postby jmayora » Fri May 28, 2010 6:56 am

Hi all,

Thanks for your recommendations. I got the SG II cable pin-out and the Tucson's OBDII connector pin-out.
They match.

I tried forcing various protocols but nothing worked. I tested the SG II in other vehicles: Ford, it worked, Mitsubishi Galant (japan model), not worked.

I suspect that Hyundai is not including OBD II in vehicles sold in Latin America because it is not a requirement. One point to this theory is that the instrument dashboard does not have the "check engine" light.

Thanks everyone

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#8 Postby tysinbad » Fri May 28, 2010 7:32 am

Well, who would have thought.

So I wonder what system is running your car then?

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Re: scangauge II in latinamerican Tucson

#9 Postby jmayora » Fri May 28, 2010 7:52 am

There are two computers in the car, one for the engine and one for the automatic transmission. These two computers have their operating system. What is missing is the OBD II (on-board diagnostics II) which is the protocol to communicate diagnostic information to an outside terminal (scan reader). This OBD II seems to be a standard in USA and Canada but not for other countries.
There is an European OBD and maybe Japan has its own.

Hyundai may have another protocol to communicate diagnostic information and only the dealers can have the terminal to read it. It is a way to secure dealer business in countries like mine. We ,as consumers, have less rights here than in USA, Canada or Europe.

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Re: scangauge II in latinamerican Tucson

#10 Postby flyfisherdon » Fri May 28, 2010 10:40 am

Here is the contact list for Scan Guage: http://www.scangauge.com/contactus.shtml.
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Re: scangauge II in latinamerican Tucson

#11 Postby pepebuho » Fri May 28, 2010 11:01 pm

Hello.
I wonder. did you ever make it work?

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Re: scangauge II in latinamerican Tucson

#12 Postby jmayora » Sun May 30, 2010 3:54 pm

Pepe

not on the tucson. It worked on a Ford.

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Re: scangauge II in latinamerican Tucson

#13 Postby miller56 » Sun May 30, 2010 4:10 pm

jmayora wrote:There are two computers in the car, one for the engine and one for the automatic transmission. These two computers have their operating system. What is missing is the OBD II (on-board diagnostics II) which is the protocol to communicate diagnostic information to an outside terminal (scan reader). This OBD II seems to be a standard in USA and Canada but not for other countries.
There is an European OBD and maybe Japan has its own.

Hyundai may have another protocol to communicate diagnostic information and only the dealers can have the terminal to read it. It is a way to secure dealer business in countries like mine. We ,as consumers, have less rights here than in USA, Canada or Europe.


Here is what ScanGauge has to say in the FAQs from their website...

Will the ScanGauge II work on my vehicle that was purchased outside of the US and Canada?

The ScanGauge requires the vehicle to be either OBDII or EOBD compatible. In the US and Canada, cars and light trucks were required to be OBDII compatible starting in 1996. In Europe, EOBD was phased in between 2002 and 2004. Other parts of the world have required one of them starting in various years.

Many vehicles made and/or sold outside the US and Canada had one of the protocols before they were required in that country. This was to allow sales to other countries and because they knew they would eventually be required to meet the requirements and designed it in when they redesigned a particular model.

There is no comprehensive list of when particular vehicles began using OBDII or EOBD outside the US and Canada.
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Re: scangauge II in latinamerican Tucson

#14 Postby flyfisherdon » Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:56 pm

When I tried to use my Scan guage 2 on my 2007 Hyundai Tucson it would not get beyond "connecting".
I called the scan guage company and they sent me a new cable with "non can" printed on it, it worked for my Tucson, and my brother's Kia.
When I tried to use that cable on my 2015 Mazda cx5 it would not get beyond "connecting", so I tried the original cable
that came with the unit, and it works ok.
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